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He means that they have only a side-view. Later he already made sprites of some spaceships tilted at different angles to see how it will look in PPW. Actually, these sprites were great to say the least.

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(09-12-2014 09:08 AM)Stefman Wrote:  He means that they have only a side-view. Later he already made sprites of some spaceships tilted at different angles to see how it will look in PPW. Actually, these sprites were great to say the least.

They are good, but consider that they are also massive for ppw scale, where 3 pixels is about as big as a car.
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(09-12-2014 09:17 AM)Denmen707 Wrote:  
(09-12-2014 09:08 AM)Stefman Wrote:  He means that they have only a side-view. Later he already made sprites of some spaceships tilted at different angles to see how it will look in PPW. Actually, these sprites were great to say the least.

They are good, but consider that they are also massive for ppw scale, where 3 pixels is about as big as a car.

I thought they were scaled right.

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Actually, there's no universal scale in PPW, so do not worry about it.

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(09-13-2014 08:55 AM)Stefman Wrote:  Actually, there's no universal scale in PPW, so do not worry about it.

Damn, just when I thought I grasped all of PW...
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Talking of scales, I'm busy re-scaling my UNSPG stuff better.
12 pixels to the metre, given that a regular PW dude is approximately 24 px tall.

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Old at the top and re-scaled on the bottom.
The old ones were huge. :/

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looking good, I love that style
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Awesome major! The jeeps look a little flat under the canopy. I'm not too sure how you would change it, but goodluck anyways :/.

Also the scale i've been using is 1px equals 10ft/3.1 ish m in ppw. But yeah people just do whatever.
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Prior to the inclusion of the historical factions, the question of what the Gensokyo fairies' tanks looked like prior to being introduced to the marvel of blocks was always at the back of my mind. After spriting out the few sensha for the GFA, I decided to play out further and sprite out their post-war designs up until the Seihou era, immediately before they made contact with Ripple Star in the current PW continuity. Indeed, for a race that's supposedly focused on nature, it would appear the fae have a rather large amount of tank designs stretched across the ages.

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Chi-Ken 32 "Chicken"
- The Chiisai-Keninsha 32 (Small Tractor 32, 32 meaning the 132nd cycle of Gensokyo, the year in which it reached serial production, 2017 in the Gregorian calender) was the first tank to be directly produced by the Great Fairy Alliance, and played an important role in teaching the fae about the methods of industrialization.

Background:

In the years before the Grand War, it was foreseen by the leprechauns exiled from the Northern Border that they would likely come into conflict with the local youkai. The average youkai was far stronger then a human, who was already stronger then a fairy, and it was known that even the strongest of the fae, the future queen of Ice-Nine, was no match for the powerful beings in which they ultimately anticipated would attempt to challenge them.

Years ago in the past, during the struggle of the Northern Border where the chauns as well as the rest of the local fantastic creatures revolted against the cruel border-master in response to a century of despair caused by the abuse of his powers, the former attempted to utilize human technology in order to offset their weakness against the monsters and men loyal to the master's side. Artillery and other weapons of war drawn in from the outside over the ages were refurbished in hopes of turning them against the tyrant-druid, and for their efforts, they achieved a reasonable success considering their lack of experience with such tools. Among the restored devices included a tank from the First World War, restored and outfitted with flamethrowers to compensate for the lack of ability the chauns had in working with automatic weapons. This tank's role in the conflict was rather minor, and it was ultimately destroyed by an ogre, but it proved capable against not only human soldiers, who fled in terror from the iron beast, but also lesser monsters, who were often unable to scratch its steel hide despite possessing superhuman strength.

It was from that instance that the fairies got the idea of producing tanks of their own design, but they lacked not only the knowledge, but industry, logistics, and quite frankly patience in order to make such a thing a reality. The pressure of the rising hostilities was not something they could ignore however, and the fae needed some way to empower themselves, something they could not achieve with their chaotic, unreliable grasp of magic.

And so, around the early 132nd cycle (2017), the fairies attempted to broker deals with two parties in order to make this idea a reality. The first party, the Kappa, were master engineers that in some cases possessed technology that not even humanity knew about, and were rather partial to the leprechauns unlike most of the other youkai, more curious about using this opportunity in order to learn about the technology of the outside world. The second party, the Moriya Shrine, was a Shinto shrine from the outside world devoted to the industrialization of the region, yet had little success in pressing modernization into the local populance after a decade of varied attempts, including managing to erect a nuclear plant. Though surprised at the fairies' proposition (they presumed that technology would be something beyond them), they ultimately accepted, and together, the kappa under the guidance of the shrine and the fey would build seven factories across Gensokyo devoted to the production of tanks, as well as three geothermal power plants and one experimental plant powered by "the force of nature itself" in order to give these factories life, with the chauns opening up a dozen mines from which to extract metals and other materials.

This was not met without opposition from the local fairies, who felt that such buildings went against their nature, and were too human, as well as doubt among the chauns which erected them, who also felt that building such structures in order to become stronger they were giving up part of what made them fairies in the first place.

Even with the mines, the metal extracted was of poor quality (though, the impurities also meant that it was relatively safe for the leprechauns to mine without fear of iron poisoning) and more would be needed if they were to produce weapons in any significant number. The fairies decided that they would have to scavenge the region for every piece of metal they could get their hands on, and thus during the summer of 2017, the so called "Tea Kettle Incident" was started, so called because a fairy stole a particularly important shrine maiden's tea kettle, causing her to chase said fairy around until she came across the ongoing construction of one of the factories herself, arriving just in time to see it produce the first prototype tanks, including a super tank designed by the Kappa themselves. After proceeding to destroy said tanks and inquiring on what exactly was going on, the local barrier maiden was convinced to let the factory remain intact provided that the fairies quit stealing from both her and the human village, by then a minor issue as the fae managed to stockpile thousands of tonnes of metal through diligent searches.

After all the factories were stocked and running, a second batch of prototypes were made. These tanks were of simpler design then the first in order to allow the fairies to produce them after the Kappa's contract ended, though some would later criticize them for being too primitive. Using mostly human technology with the only part of Kappa design being the engine (and even in that case, said engine was derived from a human design), a vehicle that was both simple in construction yet practical in design was created, and it was given the designation of "Chiisai-Keninsha 32". The Chiisai was a light tank, chosen over a heavier frame in order to allow it to easier traverse the heavily wooded forests where the fairies mostly lived, as well as to conserve resources. To humans, it would have been cramped, but fairies were small enough that up to five of them could comfortably fit inside the tank and operate it as a crew.

Trials started during the fall of 2017, and it a number of things were found as their use was experimented on. First off, tanks needed some way of coordinating with each other in order to move as a proper unit. A danmaku signal system was devised for this purpose, and a signal fairy would be an asset within each tank (in theory: In practice, many tanks lacked these fairies, especially in the later stages of the Grand War, where the leprechaun pilots would expel them before entering the front lines in order to keep them safe). Secondly, it was found that besides said signal fairy, leprechauns made the best pilots due to their technical knowledge, and were expected to be able to repair a tank on the field in case it broke down. This too was often ignored prior and during the early stages of the war, where it wasn't uncommon at all for a tank to be instead crewed by fairies, but after the conflict became hot this composition would be more heavily enforced by the chaunate for the same reasons as the above, and female crewed tanks would be reassigned to patrol or hauling duties away from the active conflict (the primary exceptions being the Scarlet Devil Mansion and Garden of the Sun, the latter being composed entirely of sunflower fairies already, who continued to participate actively much to the chaunate's chagrin). Finally, tanks were prone to overheating, so spellcards focusing on ice spells were standard issue among all tanks crews both to keep them cold and as a means to sabotage a tank as a last resort in order to keep them from falling into enemy hands.

During the opening stages of the Fairy-Youkai conflict, "Chickens" (the name in which many of the chaunate would come to refer to them) proved to be a successful, if not terribly reliable means at first to repel youkai attacks. Their steel skins proved immune to the sharp, pointed claws and fangs that most youkai used to hunt their prey, while they had a reasonable tolerance to magic attack, and provided that they were being supported by fairy scouts and chaunic infantrymen, they would more often then not prevail against most lesser youkai. The roof and engine compartment would prove to be weak-points exploited by some magic users, with a lucky shot into the former by corrosive danmaku potentially hitting the ammo stowage and causing a catastrophic explosion, completely destroying the tank, but this was infrequent enough to be a minor issue at most, and many times disabled tanks were successfully salvaged by their crews or after an area was secured, and it could be said that the Chicken formed the backbone of the early great fairy war machine. The rise of stronger youkai (such as devils and weapon tsukumogami) and more powerful magic would give a match to these tanks, and eventually it was decided that stronger vehicles would be needed in order to combat these more powerful threats, including reports of tanks superior to the Chi-Ken under possession of the enemy side, but the Chi-Ken served the entire conflict in varying capabilities, and it can be said that its creation would be one of the most important things to happen over the entire war, as it eventually led to the fairies embracing machinery in order to become stronger. By the end of the war, 223 Chickens were produced, with an additional 1146 produced in the following years by surviving factories. The tank would see use in later incidents such as the Second Ethanol Dispute and even as late as the Toad Wars.

By the Seihou era, the Chicken is no longer in the service of any group within the Gensokyo of the Future, but a few ancient surviving vehicles have become possessed by spirits after a century of abandonment, having since been overgrown by vines, moss, and foliage. To these haunted tanks, the Grand War never ended, and they diligently defend the forests and plains from non-fae, hunting down those that dare trespass on their domains with a cold, mechanical efficiency.

Description:

The Chicken stands at around seven feet in height, its weight at about seven short tons. A cursory inspection of the Chi-Ken shows it is clearly derived from the Renault FT in terms of basic design, much like other nations' early tanks, such as the Fiat 3000, M1917, and Renault Otsu (the latter most likely being the tank from which the Chicken was directly based off of, using an existing hulk left over from the second World War). Deviations include a completely different suspension utilizing two bell cranks and a frontally mounted sprocket, as well as a larger engine compartment in order to accommodate the more advanced 200 horsepower engine contained in the back. Likewise, the transmission had been completely reworked in order to support this increase in power, allowing the Chicken to move far faster then its predecessor at 48 mph on even ground (though in practice this speed was rarely achieved due to the uneven terrain of the forests it most often worked in, as well as issues in the track stability due to deficiencies related to the suspension design). Even the strongest chauns struggled to rotate the turret manually, so electronics were installed in order to allow it to move through the pressing of a lever, with the turret itself being an original design consisting of a somewhat crudely welded hexagon with an installed roof hatch for a better field of view. The gun was a local copy of the 37 mm Puteaux SA 18, though interestingly the modifications made to it during production caused it to closer resemble the 37mm mle.1916 tir rapide, Puteaux in both appearance and function, with the most important modification being the secondary ability to fire danmaku for a rapid-fire projectile as well as shells for more general infantry support. The light tank was crewed from anywhere between two to five fairies (usually leprechauns under alliance control), with four being seen as the optimal number. Humans attempting to pilot it would only be able to manage fitting in pairs, true to the design of the original FT. It should be noted that at the date it was designed, the Chi-Ken would be considered hopelessly obsolete by outside standards, but in its current situation the tank was adequate, at least for the first two years, due to fighting against an adversary that until then had only once been exposed to what could be considered modern warfare, and had been almost completely taken by surprise at the appearance of the tanks. More advanced vehicles were beyond the grasp of the fae at the time, and attempts at building a tank using their own initiative would lead to disaster in the Chi-Yo 33.

Colors:


The color-scheme in which the Chicken and other tanks were painted varied among the factions that used them, as well as the stage of the war in which they were produced. Early Alliance tanks were painted a deep golden bronze, with a secondary batch painted white in anticipation for the winter. Some tanks leased to supporting factions, such as the Scarlet Devil Mansion, were repainted in order to better reflect which group currently controlled them (the stated example in particular would often paint the tanks in purple-beige bi-colors). Those used by humans were often painted a green brown color, contrasted with a more conventional green and yellow stripes in order to form a camouflage not dissimilar to the designs used by Japan during the Second World War. As humans fought both for and against the fey, oftentimes large banners would be erected onto the turret or side of a tank in order to present its allegiance, with a black flag signifying a unit being unaligned. As the Youkai didn't usually have access to paint in large quantities, any tanks deemed worthy of capture by them were often marked in more creative ways, ranging from hanging relics onto them (or grizzlier objects) and marking them with black ink or blood, to carving scripts into the steel itself and running ink over it.

Prolonged use of tanks by fairies tended to have the side effect of having foliage latch on and grow onto the tank's outer hull, often leading to them to being covered in moss and grasses. This was considered desirable, as it allowed them to better blend into the forest landscape, and a few tanks were painted green in order to make them blend in even further.

The practice of painting tanks at all ceased around 135 as supplies dwindled and time became more important; most tanks manufactured after that point remained unpainted. This effected the Chicken rather sparsely, as it was only being produced in small quantities by then, having been mostly phased out in order to produce more advanced designs. About 30 unpainted tanks were produced and pressed into service, though some of the surviving units were given a coat by whatever faction possessed them after the end of the war.

With the creation of the states of Ice-Nine and Sunfield, the two nations would eventually develop new paint schemes distinct from the Great Fairy Alliance from which they originated. All Ice-Nine tanks were painted winter white to reflect the cold surface of Europa and their link to ice, something that happened as early as 142. Sunfield on the other hand retained the bronze color used by the Alliance during the war for a number of years, and continued to use it into the Second Ethanol Dispute, before eventually phasing it out for the more modern golden yellow color familiar today around 167, in order to match the new flag chosen to reflect the nation.

Ice-Nine would keep painting its traditionally produced tanks white after adopting the block system for producing its current generation of armored vehicles, but use a shade of blue to paint these new tanks (more out of convenience then choice, as the initial blocks sent to them were blue in color, and it would be this color that they would grow accustomed to using). Nevertheless, hybrid vehicles produced of both blocks and traditional machines parts are painted white and gray.

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I'd write descriptions for the other tanks, but whew, writing up that took much longer then I expected.
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09-17-2014 05:27 AM
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i didnt read that

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Some other fellows have taken notice of my sheet, prompting me to do a little demo in game-grade sprite animation. Just an idle and walk cycle for Cirno in three directions. Who knows, If we ever do isometric PW, perhaps I could finish the conversion and do it for other units.
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hey prop u drew something on that map???

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I done some pw scaled spoopy skeletons:

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They really need some work.

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holy shit.
First, trifon is referencing to 9/11, he is illuminati
second, those are some secky skeletons, i also wanted to draw them but failed

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I've added and changed some stuff to the Red Guys (Added buildings, an IFV and a drone carrier, last two rows)

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And I've also started on a new regular sized army.

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They're quite good but the way they crouch is very weird, i think you should move their left (right from their pov) leg forward a bit.
Also huge NIPPLES.

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How bout this?

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Yeah, IMO they look like they're stable now.
Also you appear to have cut a part of right leg.

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I did? Woops! I've fixed it now.
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How would a skeleton eat me, they don't have muscles.
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dat jus ads 2 d spook m8

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lel true

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I want do 1920 army and some xcom...
now i have some snipers and soldier who looks like typical german but green.
And bear, medic bear... i cant do mechs. So i dont show you now.
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That isnt 1920! I say i cant show now, too ugly...
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